Category: the Rant Board
Alright, so this has really been bugging me lately.
First, know that I'm picking on no one as an individual. I'm not using names, or any other identifyable characteristics. So if you're feeling this is about you, or feeling guilty ...
Now, with that disclaimer out of the way, , if you want help; if you need a ride; if you're trying to find a bus number; if you're trying to find something; if you're hoping someone will help you at a buffet - great! There's nothing wrong with that. We all rely on people to a certain extent, and there's no shame in it. That said, stop acting so friggen entitled! Say please, say thank you. Ask, don't demand, or assume someone will help you. Use your words, and your manners. Please! Again, I'm not picking on anyone specifically. it's just that this is something I've come to realize over the years. There are way too many blind people who just expect people to bend over backwards to help them, and don't even bother asking, or saying thank you. I'm not even talking about those people who haven't an independant bone in their body. This stretches to the super-independant, and everything in between. Stop it. That is all.
Right on! wow! finally a post that says it concise! A few days ago I had a friend over who only called me a week before simpley to ask me for help, and I think she was the worst guest ever. First when she came my new mommn told her that she had braught things for a week and she said, I can stay that long. She didn't eat her food, she complained, when she ate she asked for specifics, no please or thank you ever came out of her mouth, and she took the towles that were lent to her for the time she was staying. She was too demanding. I guess some people lack in social skills and manners...
Somehow I doubt this is a blind thing. Ask anyone working in the service industry, food service and otherwise. People are generally dicks and unappreciative, and I could give a flying fuck less about supposed manners and etiquette: a waiter serving me gets a thank you and a tip no less, none of this so-called business protocol where you are expected to treat them like you cannot see them, or like they are just doing their job. Never gonna happen.
I'll go further: those of us that grew up with little tend to be less entitled this way. Mainly it's people who have had a lot handed to them without the benefit of parents educating them properly. I fail to see the physics of how photon reception plays into it, however. Just tends to be a Western / American / I'm-a-douche mindset.
You see leo, many blind people, myself included, were raised to be ashamed of asking for anything. I broke away from this stupidity but many others are left feeling self-righous and stuck up when they do things even that they cannot do. I hope that made sense.
Leo, I don't know. On one level I agree with you. There are plenty of spoiled sighted people who think that the sun shines out of their asses because they grew up with money, or their family name is important in their small town, or what have you. But I've seen blind people from all walks of life who tend to do this. A former friend of mine was at the lower end of middle class, really didn't have much beyond necessities, and happened to be blind. She always expected everything to be handed to her. when she would walk into a room, she would bark out that she needed to be led to a seat. It was usually something along the lines of, "Where's there a seat?" And, of course, no thank you was ever involved. She also used to try to get me to do her homework for her, especially once she entered college. When I made it clear that she could go fuck herself, she got really pissy about it. That's one reason we stopped talking, she could never take no for an answer.
On the other hand, I have another friend who, while he's not filthy rich or anything, has had just about everything he could ever want growing up, and it shows. He also happens to be blind, and although I would ordinarily say that he would probably be the same way if he were sighted, I hesitate to say so in this circumstance. I've gotten to know his brothers over the years, and they're not like that at all. All three of them are average people, not stuck-up at all. my friend, on the other hand, loves to complain about how the blind are so disadvantaged. I never knew that you could cut ahead in lines at amusement parks, for example, until he told me it could be done. Me, him, my dad, and my sister had all gone to Hershey Park one time, and he insisted that we should get those passes. My dad and sister were not pleased; they were mad at me about it for quite awhile afterwards, even though it wasn't my idea, and he can be very insistent. For another example, he's one of those people who's a very picky eater. Whenever he would come to my house, he would only want certain foods, which would annoy my dad to no end. My mom was more understanding, but my dad would always say, "I'm glad that boy isn't my son. He would eat what was put in front of him if he were." I don't doubt that, either. I was raised to be appreciative of food, not to pick and choose, especially if I'm a guest at someone's house. There are a lot more things that he does that grind my nerves, but my point here is that I do think that, for some reason, some blind people actually do think the world revolves around them and they deserve special treatment wherever they go.
It has to do with how the person was brought up. Not just by parents, mind you, but by their peers.
I think Margorp summed it up in the previous post. I'd say it has to do with how someone was brought up more than whether they're blind or sighted. Leo's got a point, many sighted people are just as much assholes. Turtle has one too. I think what it amounts to is that a higher percentage of blind people were brought up getting things handed to them, or believing they should. I was raised to use the same level of manners my sighted sisters were taught to use, so I try to ask for help nicely when I need it, and to thank someone for giving it to me. I was raised to be an equal to my sisters, and that meant in responsibilities as well as in rights.
I get this is possible.
However, perpetuating this as an attitude against people on the basis of photon reception is tactically dangerous. The danger is you will have a group of people believing that every blind person is trying to squeeze an inch in on them. Hell, I grew up with that, under the cloud of suspicion, constantly on guard because of just that mindset. Incidentally, the same mindset Osamu Bin Laden expressed against the so-called decadent west which resulted in the Twin Towers. I would not be surprised to find people with this mindset enacting some form of terror at some point. After all, they already excuse violence against minors with no probable cause. With ideologues such as these, it's all about their religion / ideology / the idea of something, not the human case in question. Be *perceived* that you are enacting some form of ism charade (never mind the actual facts of the case) and the zealous bigots may act out as they please.
Hopefully, someday, they will be called out for who and what they are.
Again, if we had a forum where a bunch of people started in on women like this, or how about blacks, saying it was how they were raised and now they feel so entitled, etc., this would not be accepted.
What is dangerous to near terrorist proportions here is the tacit acceptance we have of this style of action. Because, of course, any response to it, or any so-called preventative response to it, be it extreme, violent, or otherwise, gets justified. And there are rag mag publications for parents of blind children to prove it. Whose paper I wouldn't consider worth to start the morning fire.
Let us say, for instance, that you are assaulted. After this assault, you stumble away from the incident, and one of these terror apologists sees you stumble. Their first line of defense is to write all over Twitter that you were an incompetent blind traveler and how dare these blind travelers be out and about. No investigation of cause, because that just might shatter their fragile ideology.
Fortunately when I was that individual there was no twitter, it was merely managed on a local level and I an insignificant minor, fortunately one with the foresight to understand this was not blind vs. non blind, but runaway ideology with zero checks and balances.
The way you know this? When person in question without investigation of cause, automatically resorts to their ideology as reason for their action or reproach or what have you. For the young and uninformed: investigation of cause means that you find out why the person acted in a certain way. So you find out that an assault had taken place of course the individual is going to be making every attempt to get away and perhaps be confused in the process.
Or you investigate and find out the person in question accidentally stuck his hand in a nearby plate of some food sitting on the ground, and did what amounts to as a tactile double take, thinking was that a mud puddle and where was the edge (I was 7 at the time of that particular incident). Investigation of cause deflates the ego and the ideology oftentimes, though, because you have to deal with reality rather than seeing something you can attribute to a fallacious cornerstone of your ideology. My life has been a saga of many such examples, not all of them drastic, some relatively minor but still a problem.
Spilling water from a grey tank when in the food business, then stepping fifteen feet away to go into the broom closet for a mop and bucket. A woman with your terror ideology immediately having seen the spill and me walking away began the building's version of what some of you would do on Twitter: claiming I had spilled and then walked away. Fortunately I had a witness to the event but I have always lived in fear of some event which will ultimately undo me because of this very ideology. This very terrorist ideology which is destructive.
If it were so helpful, these so-called bogeymen would not exist for the extreme licensure taken by people acting this way.
Also, these are the same who will always paint the bogey-man picture, that stereotypical "If you don't do x, the world will be overrun with them!" type thinking, and the translation of "them" as whatever is socially non-normative and gets people excited.
Of course people suffering hard times in a Middle Eastern country could be expected to have some envy and even anger at a decadent west, if they're told Hollywood is the mainstay and example, and that they, the poor disenfranchised are paying for it.
And of course, nobody likes to be treated like a disposable dishrag, being demanded of with no appreciation. So that is all an ideological mindset need do, so it can excuse itself of all normal law-abiding means and get what it wants.
In actuality, the entitled class is the ideological class, at least as much as the sorry excuse of a person demanding everyone drop what they're doing.
Now, let us say, for instance, that a person shouted, "Come help me!" or something desperate in a room, because an incident was under way? If she was not blind, everyone would understand those of us like you or I who would go in and attend to the situation. However, if she just happened to be photon-deprived, the terror-inspired ideologues would immediately jump on the situation and claim it was her blindness.
Makes me really glad that family members who have had to do just that, call out for help, had no such disfavor and happened to not be photon-deprived.
Every single extremist ideology, barring none, always can create a logical straw man argument to support it, and they nearly always run along the same vein. One caricature of a human being acting out in a way all of us don't, drawing the us and them line, and give them enough time they start arguing for extreme measures.
They are no different than those who beat minors claiming to save them from hell, or those who argue all blacks have an entitlement mentality, all men are rapists, all women are gold diggers, or any of that. It's just a punk excuse to get off in a way most of us can't really understand. And frankly, the sooner it's dealt with as a public issue, the better: that kind of animal appetite has no control of itself and is never ever satisfied until properly vanquished.
You should not be shocked to learn, if a blind woman got raped, that these terror apologists would somehow factor blindness and so-called skills into the equation, never mind what we actually know of rape, because logic and reason simply do not apply to ideology apologists of any sort. Only their appetite for violence and destruction does.
I'm not suggesting anyone here is like that in full, just as I know people who entertain racist and sexist literature are all racists or sexists, I would say many are curious, disenfranchised themselves and drawn in by the ideology's pat answers and easy way out for acting out. They all draw on the same straw-man arguments just substitute pigment for photons, or hormones for photons.
The only good out of this? I have forever understood the plighyt of hardworking people who are gay or immigrant or otherwise demonized as are we, and who are every bit like you: they work, they pay taxes, they look after their kids or their parents. All this ideology slurry is a ragtag list of excuses for the truly entitled: those who will at will act out their ideology on others without provocation or cause, and can never be bothered to perform the most basic investigation to see what the trouble really is. After all, as I said earlier, that takes work, deflates the ego, and causes people to maybe question their faith in their fragile ideology. And of course we can't have that!
I've tried to atempt to get people on Twitter to think about what they're saying when they kvetch about behaviors that blind people do which are just human flaws. What I usually am told is that it seems the blind do it more. Yep, they do it more and that is justification enough for rabid self-biggotry. Yep, makes all the difference in the world! Not.
Isn't that what the op is trying to say himself though? Blindness isn't an excuse to act entitled for things. I've mentioned this in another topic, but blindness is similar, yet different than races, religions, and even other disabilities themselves. This is one of those things I'll have to ponder with some.
Now to the topic. The environmental upbringing and parenting deffinetly play a big part. However it seems to be a struggle for many people to find the middle ground in this issue, both for the parents of the person and him or herself. There are way fewer classes to teach a parent how to raise a blind child than there are for parenting classes in general. It doesn't take a class to tell a person that you need to treat your child, blind or not, like any other child. However people aren't so sure what modifications need to be put in place for the child. For example I am the only blind person in my family. For years I didn't get the best services to do well in school, and I didn't learn how to live independently until after I became an adult.
So for most of my life I was more of a passive person. I felt that I had no other choice than to rely on people. They knew better than I did. So whether or not I agreed, I went with the flow of the river so to speak.
The other side is what the op mentioned, those who believe they don't need to ask for help. Those who approach every situation more agressively and with a more cocky attitude.
Both have their benefits and draw backs. I've noticed that the second might get a person farther, but then what happens when the person does in fact need help, and everyone who could help finds that person to be a jackass and avoids him or her? This is perhaps the reason why I was uncomfortable with getting training at the Louisiana Center at first, because I thought they were sticking with the second way as a means of being independent. And being the more passive sort of person I didn't feel as though I could change my ways from one side to the other. Thankfully I stuck it out, lowered my shoulders and finished the training and found that this was not the case.
In short I don't believe there is exactly a middle ground in this issue, because along with my thoughts expressed above this is a situationally based topic. There are times when you do need to be more agressive, but not 100 percent of the time. While it costs money, and it affects individual people differently, this is why I strongly believe that center training helps people in this way. It has been mentioned on other topics of how lousy of a job blind schools do in general. Parents don't have the tools to teach a blind child things all the time. And while it might not change a person who is set in their ways and is more agressive, it is a chance that hopefully that person might consider.
I've met my fair share of blind folks who thought that their nonfunctioning eyeballs granted them entitlement to everything handed to them on a silver platter. Some of them even went so far as to come rigt out and say it. I have a blind acquaintance whom I've spoken of in guide dog threads. She subscribes to this view herself and has tried to swayme to it on more than one occasion. I get the feeling her folks have, whether intentionally or not, nerchered that belief in her over the years. Needless to say I haven't met with her for four years now, though she did call me out of te blue rather suddenly last year. I put her off in the usual way, saing that I'd look her up whenI had free time, of course having no intention of ever doing so. She's the sort who'll initiate a legal battle against a grocery store employee who refses to help her shop, even if said employee had an entirely legitimate reason for doing so I.E. they had too much work of their own to attend to. But she wouldn't even give them the chance to hook her up with someone who could help her, which most store employees around here would do if given the chance. If it's not the first person she meets though then that personor that store is going to court. She wanted me to help her initiate such proceedings against the Twin Falls Public Library about six years back because they wouldn't allow her to put braille labels on the audiobooks. This would be a reasonable request if it was only the blind who read audiobooks, but of course this is not the case. A public library just would not be a good place for that since more than likely the label would be torn off by the first sighted person to check out the book simply because most sighted folks don't understand what braille labels mean.
We all have experiences, this is definitely not data. Mine includes meeting a rich man who went blind, and subsequently complained that blind people expected him to do way more than he had ever had to do sighted. Myself included, by the way, and my personal explanation was this: I don't know about others, but me having grown up with little, I think photons have less to do with it than social expectations. He happened to fall in with people, both blind and sighted, who made a lot less money than he did, people some of whom had been housekeepers, none of us having actually had a housekeeper.
In other words, had he fallen in with a lot of rich blind, I'm sure they all would have been just like rich sighted.
Oh and if you would like a show of temper tantrums that puts your emo kids to shame? Visit many a executive lounge at an airport.
Or on the other end of the scale, go in as part of a rescue effort into impoverished areas like Katrina and witness how some of those will respond to you if someone just happens to be in front of them.
Now, if I said all rich and all poor, or even most rich or most poor, many on here would call that classist. Sorry, the arguments on here have been around since the 70s, at least, and the longer I live the more I become convinced they are wrong. Not the experiences, we all have run into a middle aged white douchebag or a black dude that took your CD or any number of other things, because self-centered people come in all shapes, sizes, colors, abilities, orientation and religions.
When I see blind people complaining about the human flaws of blind people, what I tend to read into it is people must seem to believe that if the assholes they're going on about were sighted, they would not be assholes. That's utter bullshit. In the end, you can't fix people, all you can do is recognize the traits you dislike and be mindful not to do them yourself. If our grandest desire in the universe as blind people is to be fully equal and integrated into sighted society, then this means we are within our rights to be fucking assholes, not because blindness forces us to against our will, but because some people are just fucking assholes and that's the long and short of it. So, decide. Are we supposed to be better than everyone else or just like everyone else, flaws and bullshit included.
i agree what has been said with different user here. I think, sister dawn brought up a good point. Lots of blind people expect thingw to happen for them because they simply have things they want the way they want.
Yes, sighted people also have their own ass, but, generally, sighted people also have that kind of sense that they need to work towards something before something given to them. However, with some blind people, they blieve that things will happen, they will get it without even need to ask, or appreciate the kindness.
Last year, i volunteered for a blind conference. was going round asking if anyone want to have a glass of water or juice. Not only some blind people appreciate it, some starting to say something like "i ask for coffee about 3 minutes ago, i don't want juice and bring me that coffee". WTF? i'm just a volunteer, not their slave... a word of thanks or please will be nice.
Thank you, God Zilla, you said exactly what I was thinking. Blind people are just people, really. Some are assholes, some aren't, and that's about the size of it. Blindness or any other disability can give people an excuse to act entitled. A certain race or class or amount of wealth can make someone act entitled. A certain amount of intelligence, academic standing, talent, fame, or plain old arrogance can make someone act entitled. Blindness is just one more thing that people use as an excuse to be an asshole.
This is my sidewalk! Move outta my way asshole! Haha
Yeah its not just blind people, trust me. I thought it was so until I started working in social service. You would be amazed at the things people feel they should be given or that they feel they are entitled too. A countless number of times I have wanted to say something but then remembered I was on the clock!
Oh I know not just blind folks are assholes. I'mjust making observations that I've met plenty who were. And yes I rather suspect they'd be assholes whether they were blind or not. The problem is they expect me to be as well.
Ok for those of you claiming the blind are entitled, I'll concede. Check this guy out, you'll see what I mean.
Have fun.
ROFL! LOL
OMG this was hilarious! There were so many things wrong with this video that I laughed so hard.... thanks, Leo, for the best laugh of my week!
LOL.
I love that guy. He cracks me up. I think he's done some other stuff at Walmart. An angry black man at Wal-Mart. Now yall know that's gunna be some funny shit. I only wish I could be half as entertaining when I'm pissed off.
Lol glad you all liked it.
Now go look up Black Man Teaches how to eat fried chicken. That is also priceless.
I think Godzilla is spot on really, blind people are just people, I will add that we should not be expected to represent blind people as a community. While I think that manners is the first rule of human courtesy I also don't think it is always advantagious or sensible to continue insisting on being polite and passive when manners have proved futile and you are clearly not getting the service that you or any blind or sighted person deserves. It just seems a bit pathetic to overcompensate with this pitter pitter pat polite talk when the tables are clearly turned against you! it just seems well .. I don't know a bit soggy wet blanket! like I'm so sorry I'm blind! please help me! instead of just emphasizing what you need when people do not listen. We should not have to apologize for blindness or compensate for it in some other way.
Hello. I'm 43 years old, and do remember being taught in school as a child that Blind people need to be extra polite, and well mannered in order to even stand up before the Sighted world. I agree with Blind Guardian's view that all of us need to be more polite. But I do not think that it should be because we're blind!
Weare no more entitled to things than anyone else, but to be fair, doesn't the sighted world, AKA The Social Security administration, tell us that if we'll be willing to accept crumbs we can get them for free?
I think this issue must be balanced with the realities we indeviduals live in. Nobody owes me anything, but I'm one of the ones who is guilty of being, "Extremely
independent." So?
I was never givin this goo about beeing extra polite. What rubbish!
I've heard it occasionally. It goes back to something someone said in another topic. We're apparently only allowed to have a very select range of emotions. These seem to be extreme sorrow about blindness (and heaven forbid we should exhibit a sense of humor), and profound grattitude to whatever sighted perso should dain to speak with us, regardless of how impolite said sighted person may be. LOL.
It's the whole blind ambasador thing. See, we are supposed to assume people think we're all alike and play along to somehow placate them, what with it being their world and not ours and all, rather than tell them. "Hey, you might wanna go ahead and abandon that idea about how we blind folks are all clones of one another because it's inaccurate and impossible, ok, because that's kind of wrong and stuff."
ah yes, it is easier to steriotype.
A guy I ran into yesterday told me he starts making phone calls in October to his church folks about getting an invite for Thanksgiving and Christmas. He lives on his own and doesn't bother to cook for himself. He is a senior citizen like me, but is plain lazy. I told him to get a caregiver if he has so many problems helping himself. I think he feels folks owe him help. No wonder we have the stereotype crap.
I don't think there's any escape from stereotypes. Whoever you are or aren't, whatever you do or don't do, there's at least one stereotype attached to it. I suppose all you can do is turn all that noise down to the background and just do what you'll do, allow yourself to be imperfect like everyone else is, and make yourself a nice thick skin so you don't let the bastards get ya down.
I guess it beats pissing and moaning.
I'd prefer pissing and moaning, even if there's a lot of it, to going on a murderous rampage just to feel like you're being heard.
good point.
Some blind people are raised to be helpless. They get that message from their families who won't allow them to do things for themselves, or to go places independently. If you're raised in an environment in which people are always doing things for you, and don't expect or motivate you to do for yourself, you're going to become an entitled adult. I worked at a camp for blind kids for several summers, and I was disheartened by how many kids would simply sit until made to move around. One girl would say, "but I'm blind," when invited to participate in activities. It is sad.
It really is tough to stomach. I often reflect back on the time when I had that mentality. Every person is different. For me it took a hypothetical kick in the ass to get me in the right direction. For a time I didn't havve family support because of things that were out of my control. The foster parent I lived with began to change my thoughts and beliefs of my potential as someone who was blind. It wasn't easy but he didn't give up. He didn't take my laziness lightly and made me work for things I wanted, and this is perhaps one of the biggest lessons I am greatful to have learned. Not everyone is fed by a silver spoon, but that doesn't mean you can't earn what you want. Then when I attended the Louisiana Center for the Blind, that opened up my horizons. Like I mentioned earlier, every person is different and not everyone else has the hope or desire to do well as I do, despite their circumstances. But life is too precious to let by. There is so much to do and experience out in the world, and you can't experience true life by sitting at home collecting the check and eating delivery foods. You can't learn lifeskills if everyone does everything for you. And at the end of the day, once those people who care for you are gone, you'd be screwed and unable to care for yourself. I don't know about you, but there's no way in hell I would want to die helpless. I want to experience as much as I can, and I hope I have the opportunity to help other blind people in my past situation find freedom. There is nothing better than being able to travel freely and do things on your own for as long as you can. At some point we all end up in a situation where we can't care for ourselves because of health once you get older, but blindness is no excuse.
I often wish that there was something I could do to help those people. I was once lead to believe I was blind shit and it kind of turned me into just that for a while. I finally dragged myself out of that and I get sad when I see other blind people stuck in that cycle.
I got sighted slaves. they wash my balls and cut my steak for me. god for bid I have to do any of that, my favourite is getting them to sort my socks out and matching them then slipping them on to my feet. I never ask I just demand and shout at them till all my requirements are fulfilled. what's the issue I am not even total!
At least they don't cut your balls and wash your steak.
I'm afraid that's probably next.
hahaha
They will revolt and kill you in your sleep.
LOL. Granted if I'm not sure how a blind person might do something I get invited to do I'll express that bt I'll at least give it a try to see if it can be done. I never believed a blind person could or would want to do Karaoke until I did it myself for the first time. Same with handling firearms, though I've been doing that since I was eight or so. Admittedly I wouldn't want to pick up a gun and try using it without a sighted person around but still.
Blindies with guns should be a show.
No, it's not the blind who will revolt, it will be the helpers who will finally have a total breakdown after waiting on a blind person hand and foot and murder the blind person in their sleep for the sake of their own deteriorating sanity.
they shouldn't. After all, the helpers aren't forced into helping.
Charges out the front door with a big battering ram cane. Move outta my way motherfuckers! The sidewalk is mine! Hey asshole, go stand somewhere else and smoke your nasty cigarettes!
hmmm
LOL. The ones I don't get are the ones who really don't want to acknowledge the fact that they're blind, yet at the same time tey won't go out for fun activities unless they can get discounts based on being blind. And yes, I've known a few folks like that, and not just newly blind ones.
Maybe this is my pet peave only and maybe it's for another post, but I work with a guy who is definitely losing sight because, I think, of some genetic thing like RP, but he always has to talk about "the blind guy," meaning himself, and how he's blind, he's blind, he's blind. And how everybody should make more allowances for blind people. He can't just go on about life and deal with the reality of his situation and acknowledge there are some things he can't do as well or won't be able to do at all because of the diminishing sight and then move on. Instead, he has to keep reminding everybody about his blindness. Kind of annoying.
I'm sure it is. However, he is going blind and is probably having a difficult time adjusting.
well said, margorp.
if this guy is indeed going blind, I'm sure denial is a huge part of what he's experiencing, right now.
I completely agree with Chelsea and Margorp. For those of us who have been blind since birth, being the way we arw is something we've had ample time to get used to. For this person, being blind is probably the central point of his world right now--and he's probably having a really hard time accepting it.
I try to remember that, but it's difficult. Especially when he refers to a cane as a "blind stick." Really?
Poor stick, it can't see a damned thing!
Neither can the stick in my pants. Haw haw haw!
My point is that you should cut this guy a little slack.
I do; I don't say anything to him about it. But how much slack can you possibly cut somebody before you say cool it a while?
as much as he needs, given the fact he hasn't been blind since birth.
I partialy agree, but if he wants an honest opinion about how I think he's being, I'll be diplomatic if I can, but I don't think totally pulling punches is doing him or anyone else in his situation any real favors. It's a balancing act between accepting where someone is and telling him he's being inappropriate sometimes. Because he has sometimes been inappropriate, and unfortunately it's redounded against me. Not cool.
That's...a little different, yes. As much as he does need to be given some wiggle room since he's so new to something so devastating, he also needs support that is honest and that won't hide the facts from him.
yes, that, he does. I can't disagree, there.
agreed. learn how to be thankful. learn how to say,"please,thank you, excuse me, sir and ma'am" damn blind fuckers! *smile*
I believe that he'll come around.